Subject: RE: FOI 2026-036 – Great House Farm, Llandough – filtered schedule still not supplied; unanswered points from FOI 2026-032 correction From: FOI Requests Direction: received Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2026 09:22 UTC Institution: Amgueddfa Cymru - Museum Wales Refs: none Archive id: gm-1a11ad2b22443cb9 ------------------------------------------------------------ Dear Mr Buckler Thank you for your email. The Museum has reviewed the material held under reference MS 3360/3 and has already provided the relevant page identified during that review. There is no catalogue record identifying Great House Farm within this document. Following additional research by Collections staff, one page within the larger document was identified as relating to Great House Farm and was supplied to you. The information contained on that page has already been disclosed and summarised in our previous correspondence. No further recorded information relating to Great House Farm has been identified within the material held under reference MS 3360/3. We therefore have nothing further to add on this matter. Cofion cynnes, [A picture containing text, tableware, plate, dishware Description automatically generated] FOI Team [cid:image002.png@01DD570E.F8BD0A00] [email redacted]<[email redacted]> amgueddfa.cymru | museum.wales Rhif elusen | Charity number 525774 From: Sion Buckler <[email redacted]> Sent: 07 October 2026 18:10 To: FOI Requests <[email redacted]> Subject: Re: FOI 2026-036 – Great House Farm, Llandough – filtered schedule still not supplied; unanswered points from FOI 2026-032 correction This email comes from outside the organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless it is an email you expected to receive. FOI Team, Thank you for the clarification. Your email of 7 October materially clarifies the position, and I have now corrected my records to distinguish the different Llandough farmsteads. Ref 13.2 — Llandough Farm opposite the hospital I understand and accept the distinction in your catalogue description: “Waterwheel from Llandough Farm (opposite hospital)” This refers to the separate Llandough Farm in the Llandough near Penarth/Cardiff locality, not to Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr. I am not seeking to attribute the waterwheel to Great House Farm. I will therefore treat Ref 13.2 as a separate Llandough Farm record unless a primary Museum record expressly establishes otherwise. MS 3360/3 — Great House / Llandough Estate The more significant clarification is the information you have now supplied from MS 3360/3. You state that the page records that: * “Great House” formed part of the Llandough Estate sale particulars of 1924; * it was occupied by W.G. Thomas & Sons; * it comprised approximately 202 acres; * it was situated in the Parish of Llanfair; and * the homestead was situated in the Village of Llandough. Those particulars provide a much more specific identification than the earlier catalogue description. I am particularly interested in the combination of Llandough Estate + Parish of Llanfair + Village of Llandough + approximately 202 acres + W.G. Thomas & Sons. Could you therefore confirm one narrow point from the record already examined: Does the MS 3360/3 page or plan itself contain any further recorded identifier which identifies which historical Llandough is meant — for example the specific place-name form, neighbouring farms, estate owner, parish/benefice wording, acreage breakdown, plan number, tenant information, road, church or other geographical feature? I am not asking the Museum to make a new identification or to provide an opinion. I am asking only whether such information is actually recorded in the page or plan you have already examined. There is an important reason for keeping this distinction precise. There are two different farmsteads in the Llandough near Penarth/Cardiff locality relevant to the Museum's records: 1. Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr, beside St Dochdwy's Church; and 2. Llandough Farm, separately described by the Museum as “opposite hospital”. They must not be treated as alternative names for one farm. There is also a separate question concerning the Museum's wording “Llandough Church Farm” in the 1858 provenance of accession 63.24. I now understand that this should not automatically be equated with either of the above merely because it contains the word Llandough. Unless the underlying historical evidence expressly identifies the 1858 “Church Farm”, I will continue to record that identity as unresolved. Filtered schedule I also accept your clarification that the Museum does not hold a separate recorded audit schedule showing, item by item, which search results staff excluded after reviewing the results. I therefore do not ask the Museum to create such a schedule. For the purposes of the record, I will instead distinguish between: * records positively identified as Great House Farm / Tŷ Mawr; * records positively identified as the separate Llandough Farm opposite the hospital; * records from other Llandoughs, including Llandough-juxta-Cowbridge; * and source-specific records whose location remains unresolved. The new MS 3360/3 particulars are sufficiently distinctive to make the underlying page and plan an important identification source, so I would be grateful for confirmation of whether any further geographical identifier is actually recorded there. Thank you again for the clarification. Cofion, Sion Buckler On Wed, 7 Oct 2026, 08:11 FOI Requests, <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> wrote: Dear Mr Buckler Thank you for your email. In relation to the filtered schedule, Amgueddfa Cymru does not hold a separate recorded document identifying, item by item, which search results were excluded following review. Search results were reviewed by staff to determine whether they related to the location specified in your request, and the outcome of that review was reflected in our response of 5 October 2026. We do not hold a separate audit schedule of those decisions. In relation to MS 3360/3, the relevant page was previously supplied in response to FOI 2026-032. That page records that "Great House" formed part of the Llandough Estate sale particulars of 1924, was occupied by W.G. Thomas & Sons, comprised approximately 202 acres, was situated in the Parish of Llanfair, and describes the homestead as being situated in the Village of Llandough. No additional recorded information identifying the holding has been identified within the material reviewed. In relation to Ref 13.2, the collections record describes the item as a "Waterwheel from Llandough Farm (opposite hospital)". No further location information has been identified within the record. We trust this clarifies the position. Cofion cynnes, FOI Team [email redacted] amgueddfa.cymru | museum.wales Rhif elusen | Charity number 525774 -----Original Message----- From: Sion Buckler <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Sent: 07 October 2026 05:29 To: FOI Requests <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Subject: RE: FOI 2026-036 – Great House Farm, Llandough – filtered schedule still not supplied; unanswered points from FOI 2026-032 correction This email comes from outside the organisation. Do not click links or open attachments unless it is an email you expected to receive. Dear FOI Team, FOI 2026-036 – response of 5 October 2026 Thank you for the letter. I note the additional records identified (Ref 13.2 waterwheel and the page of MS 3360/3). What remains unanswered On 27 September I corrected the place names in the FOI 2026-032 pack, identifying at least PAS 2022.18.1 (NGR SS9934672805) and a separate Great House Farm entry at Llandow as belonging to different properties. Your reply of 28 September accepted the distinction: the collections system does not group by similar names, no recorded cross-attribution is held, and those hits arose from the search rather than catalogue overlap. The 5 October letter does not supply a cleaned / filtered schedule showing which of the FOI 2026-032 items survive that filter. Until that is provided, the cross-reference still carries the Cowbridge and Llandow material. That is the point left open on 28 September and still open now. What you have not said You have not stated, item by item, which of the earlier schedule entries are now excluded as relating to Great House Farm near Cowbridge or Great House Farm, Llandow. You have not confirmed the parish of the page of MS 3360/3 that you identify as relating to Great House Farm (which Llandough, and any vendor / tenant / acreage / parcel detail that identifies the holding). You have not confirmed whether Ref 13.2 (waterwheel collected 1 April 1979 from “Llandough Farm”, donor Wales and West Housing Association) is recorded as the Penarth site opposite the hospital, or as the farmhouse demolished by BP on 6 December 1988. Please therefore supply: 1. A filtered schedule of the FOI 2026-032 records that remain after exclusion of all items relating to Great House Farm / Llandough near Cowbridge and to Great House Farm, Llandow. For each surviving entry: accession or archive number, title, date, and one-line description. 2. Explicit parish confirmation for the page of MS 3360/3 identified as relating to Great House Farm: which Llandough, and any vendor / tenant / acreage / parcel detail that identifies the holding. 3. Confirmation whether Ref 13.2 is recorded as the Penarth site opposite the hospital, or as the farmhouse demolished by BP on 6 December 1988. These are requests for recorded information already within the searches undertaken. I am not seeking new searches or opinions. The unanswered point is the filter that you accepted was necessary on 28 September but have not yet applied in a disclosed schedule. Cofion, Sion Buckler (Ret'd Sergeant) Royal Signals Cyber/Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member