Subject: Re: FOI: 2026-036 - Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff
From: Sion Buckler
Direction: sent
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:17 UTC
Institution: Amgueddfa Cymru - Museum Wales
Refs: none
Archive id: gm-1a080f35db8474d2
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FOI Team,

Thank you for your email concerning FOI:2026-036.

I do not agree that FOI:2026-032 should be closed or treated as replaced.

The three matters are distinct and should remain so.

Internal review of FOI 2026-024
This remains a review of how the original 27 July request was interpreted
and searched. I confirm it is separate. Nothing in FOI:2026-036 is a
comment on that review.

FOI 2026-032 (your letter of 26 August 2026; also written by you as FOI
2026-32)
This is the request you yourselves extracted from my 26 August email. Its
subject is the records your searches for FOI 2026-024 had already
identified: the “other archaeological discoveries recorded at Great House
Farm (Ty Mawr), Llandough” and the Church Farm, Llandough finds which you
excluded from 2026-024 as out of scope. You registered that as a new
request and gave a response date of 23 September 2026. That request has not
been withdrawn. Those records have already been located. They do not
require a new collection-wide trawl.

FOI:2026-036 (my email of 8 September 2026). This is a new request. It is
not a restatement of 2026-032. It has additional limbs:

a schedule of every object, archive file, accession, loan, enquiry or
correspondence record indexed, provenanced or otherwise recorded as from
Great House Farm / Ty Mawr / Llandough Farm;

the Church Farm schedule only so far as already retrieved in the 2026-024
search, and without a new full trawl;

predecessor accession, register, day-book, donations-book and
correspondence searches for 1875–1915 (Cardiff Museum / Welsh Museum of
Natural History / National Museum of Wales) for ironwork, armour, visor,
lance, helmet, “armour from Llandough”, or a find from Great House /
Llandough Farm;

object records for Llandough ironwork not labelled “visor” or “lance” but
associated with the farmhouse floor or rear wing / dairy.

If it assists you administratively, I have no objection to a single letter
that answers both 2026-032 and 2026-036, provided that:
a. FOI 2026-032 is not closed, withdrawn or treated as superseded;

b. the records already identified in the 2026-024 search are scheduled and
disclosed as a discrete part of that letter, and that part is provided by
the date you gave for 2026-032 (23 September 2026);

c. the additional limbs of 2026-036 remain live and are answered on the
2026-036 timescale;

d. the two requests are not aggregated so as to refuse either under section
12;
e. the internal review of FOI 2026-024 continues independently.

The purpose of 2026-036 was to obtain the records you had already found and
set aside, together with the predecessor-register and full-site schedule
work that 2026-024 did not cover. It was not an invitation to extinguish
2026-032 or to restart the clock on material already retrieved.

Please confirm that FOI 2026-032 remains open on the terms above.

Regards,

Sion Buckler
[email redacted]

On Tue, 8 Sept 2026, 06:08 FOI Requests, <[email redacted]>
wrote:

> Dear Mr Buckler
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> Thank you for your email.
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> I note that this request covers the same subject matter as FOI:2026-032
> and extends the scope of the information requested in that case.
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> In order to avoid duplication and ensure that we provide a single,
> comprehensive response, our intention is to treat FOI:2026-036 as replacing
> FOI:2026-032 and to close FOI:2026-032 accordingly.
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> Unless we hear from you to the contrary within the next few working days,
> we will proceed on that basis and respond to the broader request contained
> in FOI:2026-036.
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> Please note that your request for an internal review of FOI:2026-024
> remains a separate matter and will continue to be considered independently.
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> Cofion cynnes,
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> *FOI Team*
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> [email redacted] <[email redacted]>
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> amgueddfa.cymru | museum.wales
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> *Rhif elusen* | Charity number 525774
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> *From:* Sion Buckler <[email redacted]>
> *Sent:* 08 September 2026 04:05
> *To:* FOI Requests <[email redacted]>
> *Subject:* ALLANOL/EXTERNAL - Great House Farm, Llandough, Cardiff
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> This email comes from outside the organisation.
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> Do not click links or open attachments unless it is an email you expected
> to receive.
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> FOI Team,
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> This is a new request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. It is not
> a repeat of FOI 2026-024 and it is not a comment on the internal review of
> that request.
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> In your letter of 25 August 2026 (FOI 2026-024) you stated:
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>   “For completeness, our searches identified records relating to other
> archaeological finds from Church Farm, Llandough and to other
> archaeological discoveries recorded at Great House Farm (Ty Mawr),
> Llandough. These records do not relate to, nor are they otherwise
> associated with, the discovery described in your request. We have therefore
> not considered them to fall within the scope of this request.”
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> I now request those records.
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> Please provide:
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> 1. A schedule of every object, archive file, accession, loan, enquiry or
> correspondence record that Amgueddfa Cymru holds which is indexed,
> provenanced or otherwise recorded as from Great House Farm / Ty Mawr /
> Llandough Farm, Llandough (Penarth / Vale of Glamorgan). For each entry:
> accession or archive number, object or file title, date of acquisition or
> creation, donor or excavator if recorded, and a one-line description.
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> 2. The same schedule for Church Farm, Llandough, but only so far as the
> records were retrieved in the 2026-024 search and can be identified without
> a new full trawl.
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> 3. Any accession, register entry, day-book, donations book or
> correspondence in the collections of Amgueddfa Cymru or of its predecessor
> Cardiff Museum / Welsh Museum of Natural History / National Museum of
> Wales, dated 1875–1915, recording ironwork, armour, a visor, a lance, a
> helmet, “armour from Llandough”, or a find from Great House / Llandough
> Farm.
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>    Published sources which state that such ironwork is in the National
> Museum, and which therefore make a search of predecessor registers
> reasonable, are:
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>    • GGAT, Land at Great House Farm, Llandough: An Archaeological
> Assessment, August 1990 (planning file 89/01396/OUT and 92/00671/RES): “it
> is likely that some medieval ironwork which is held by the National Museum
> of Wales was discovered under the rear wing c 1880 (RCAHMW 1988).”
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>    • Holbrook & Thomas, Medieval Archaeology 49 (2005), p. 70 n. 142:
> “medieval ironwork was discovered under the rear wing of Great House Farm
> c. 1880. It is now in the collections of the National Museums & Galleries
> of Wales.”
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>    I note that the National Museum of Wales was not founded until 1907. If
> a find of c.1880 entered a public collection in Cardiff it would have done
> so through the earlier municipal museum. Please search those predecessor
> accession registers, not only the post-1907 NMW database.
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> 4. Any object record for Llandough ironwork that is not labelled “visor”
> or “lance” but is or was associated with the farmhouse floor or rear wing /
> dairy (the room identified on H. J. Thomas’s 1974 RCAHMW plan).
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> Please treat this as a request for recorded information only.
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> Regards,
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> Sion Buckler
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> [email redacted]
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