Subject: Re: Enquiry regarding historical deaths – William Buckler (1990) and Mary Doreen Williams (1983) From: SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594) Direction: received Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 07:59 UTC Institution: Cardiff and Vale University Health Board Refs: none Archive id: gm-1a023556be2eec71 ------------------------------------------------------------ Good morning and thank you for your email. I have forwarded your email onto another department who may be able to assist you further with your enquiry and who will be in direct contact with you, as the request is something that the Medical Examiners Service is not able to help you with but, hopefully the correct department can be located and they will be in touch shortly. Many thanks Michelle Michelle Burnett MES Operations Support Officer Swyddfa Ganolog De Cymru South Wales Central Office Gwasanaeth Archwilio Meddygol Cymru Gyfan All Wales Medical Examiners Service Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership Ffon Telephone: [phone redacted] E-bost Email: [email redacted]<[email redacted]> Gwefan Website: https://nwssp.nhs.wales/ourservices/medical-examiner-service/ Mae Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. NHS Wales Shared Services welcomes correspondence in Welsh. Dw i ddim yn deall Cymraeg. Fodd bynnag mae PCGC yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg neu Saesneg. Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. Ni fydd gohebu gyda ni yn y Gymraeg yn achosi oedi. I’m not able to understand Welsh. However NWSSP welcomes correspondence in Welsh or English. We welcome correspondence in Welsh and corresponding with us in Welsh will not lead to delay. Mae’r neges hon yn gyfrinachol. Os nad chi yw’r derbynnydd y bwriedid y neges a rei gyfer, rhowch wybod I’r anfonwr yn ddioed. Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiadau neu sylwadau a wneir uchod yn rhai personol, ac nid o angenrhaid yn rhai o eiddo Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru, nac unrhyw ran gyfansoddol ohoni na chorff cysylltiedig. This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of the message then please notify the sender immediately. Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership any constituent part or connected body. Cofiwch fod yn ymwybodol ei bod yn bosibl y bydd disgwyl Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru roi cyhoeddusrwydd I gynnwys unrhyw e-bost neu ohebiaeth a dderbynnir, yn inol ag amodau’r Ddeddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000. Please be aware that, under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership may be required to make public the content of any emails or correspondence received. [cid:303e049b-f298-4540-bc6e-92c0aa914ae0][cid:e8b9a5d1-5774-4a76-8b69-8e6903a12f07] [cid:6cd3059a-3f58-4d97-8934-55a051078076] ________________________________ From: Sion Buckler <[email redacted]> Sent: 21 August 2026 08:44 To: SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594) <[email redacted]> Subject: Re: Enquiry regarding historical deaths – William Buckler (1990) and Mary Doreen Williams (1983) WARNING: External email – take care before clicking links or opening attachments. Michelle, Thanks for your prompt response. I'd like to request an internal review of the handling of my enquiry and, insofar as it constitutes a Freedom of Information request, of the conclusion that no relevant records are held. I am not challenging the conclusion simply because it is inconvenient to my enquiry. Rather, I would like to establish whether an adequate search was undertaken before the conclusion was reached. Your latest response states that the Medical Examiner Service would not hold “any records whatsoever” or have “any knowledge” of these patients. Given that the deaths occurred in 1983 and 1990, before the establishment of the current Medical Examiner Service, I would be grateful if the internal review could specifically establish whether the search extended beyond current Medical Examiner records to any relevant predecessor, legacy or transferred records. In particular, could the review please confirm: 1. What records and information systems were searched; 2. Whether any legacy or predecessor records relating to the medical examination or certification of deaths were considered; 3. Whether records relating to Llandough Hospital, where William Buckler is recorded as having died in approximately May 1990, are held by the Medical Examiner Service, NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership, another NHS body, or an archive to which you have access or knowledge; 4. Whether any records concerning referrals to a coroner, inquests, post-mortems or other investigations into these deaths would have been held separately from Medical Examiner records; 5. Whether the possibility of records having been transferred to an archive or successor organisation was considered; 6. Whether the statement that no records are held means that no relevant records are held by the South Wales Central Medical Examiner Service specifically, or that searches have established that no such records are held anywhere within NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership; and 7. If the records are not held by your organisation, whether you can identify the appropriate current custodian or archive for any surviving historical records. For clarity, the individuals concerned are: * William (Billy) Buckler – died at Llandough Hospital on or about 29 May 1990, aged 41; and * Mary Doreen Williams – born 10 August 1913; death registered in March 1983, South Glamorgan, Vol. 28, p. 3029. I would be grateful if this could be treated as a formal internal review rather than simply a further general enquiry. I would also ask that the review be undertaken by someone who was not responsible for the original response, where practicable. My purpose is to establish a reliable documentary record and, in particular, to distinguish between: (a) records which do not exist; (b) records which once existed but have been destroyed; (c) records which exist but are held by another organisation; and (d) records which are held within NHS Wales or a predecessor organisation but were not identified by the original search. I would be grateful for confirmation of the review and, where applicable, the relevant FOI reference number. Kind regards, Sion Buckler (Ret'd Sergeant) Royal Signals Cyber and Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member On Fri, 21 Aug 2026, 04:33 SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594), <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> wrote: Good morning We would not hold any records whatsoever or have any knowledge of these patients. Many thanks Michelle Swyddfa Ganolog De Cymru South Wales Central Office Gwasanaeth Archwilio Meddygol Cymru Gyfan All Wales Medical Examiners Service Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership Ffon Telephone: [phone redacted] E-bost Email: [email redacted]<[email redacted]> Gwefan Website: https://nwssp.nhs.wales/ourservices/medical-examiner-service/ Mae Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. NHS Wales Shared Services welcomes correspondence in Welsh. Dw i ddim yn deall Cymraeg. Fodd bynnag mae PCGC yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg neu Saesneg. Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. Ni fydd gohebu gyda ni yn y Gymraeg yn achosi oedi. I’m not able to understand Welsh. However NWSSP welcomes correspondence in Welsh or English. We welcome correspondence in Welsh and corresponding with us in Welsh will not lead to delay. Mae’r neges hon yn gyfrinachol. Os nad chi yw’r derbynnydd y bwriedid y neges a rei gyfer, rhowch wybod I’r anfonwr yn ddioed. Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiadau neu sylwadau a wneir uchod yn rhai personol, ac nid o angenrhaid yn rhai o eiddo Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru, nac unrhyw ran gyfansoddol ohoni na chorff cysylltiedig. This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of the message then please notify the sender immediately. Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership any constituent part or connected body. Cofiwch fod yn ymwybodol ei bod yn bosibl y bydd disgwyl Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru roi cyhoeddusrwydd I gynnwys unrhyw e-bost neu ohebiaeth a dderbynnir, yn inol ag amodau’r Ddeddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000. Please be aware that, under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership may be required to make public the content of any emails or correspondence received. [cid:70584720-eb23-4a27-b150-a36d6d719c61][cid:65f018f7-b792-475c-97d3-335cd5b44fc5] [cid:fdb908eb-d160-4e1e-b18d-6dfa8157d153] ________________________________ From: Sion Buckler <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Sent: 21 August 2026 08:30 To: SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594) <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Subject: Re: Enquiry regarding historical deaths – William Buckler (1990) and Mary Doreen Williams (1983) You don't often get email from [email redacted]<[email redacted]>. Learn why this is important WARNING: External email – take care before clicking links or opening attachments. Dear Michelle, Thank you for your prompt response and for clarifying that the South Wales Central Medical Examiner Service does not hold records dating back to these deaths. I appreciate your advice regarding the registrars' offices. I will follow that route. For completeness, could you please clarify whether, in addition to the registration records, you would expect any historical records relating to these deaths — for example, medical certificates of cause of death, coroner's referrals or inquest records, or archived hospital records — to be held by another NHS body, the coroner's service, or an archive rather than the registrars? In particular, I am trying to establish the documentary trail surrounding: * William (Billy) Buckler, who died at Llandough Hospital on or about 29 May 1990; and * Mary Doreen Williams, whose death was registered in March 1983 in South Glamorgan (Vol. 28, p. 3029). I understand that the Medical Examiner Service itself did not exist at the time, so I am simply trying to identify the correct historical custodian of any surviving records. Thank you again for pointing me in the right direction. Kind regards, Sion Buckler Ret'd Sergeant Royal Signals Cyber and Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member On Fri, 21 Aug 2026, 03:55 SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594), <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> wrote: Good morning Thank you for your email Unfortunately, we do not hold ay records dating back this far and Data Protection would not allow us to release these either if they were held. You would therefore need to contact the registrars office in Cardiff and the Vale of Glamorgan who may be able to assist you further. Kind regards Michelle Micehlle Burnett MES Operations Support Officer Swyddfa Ganolog De Cymru South Wales Central Office Gwasanaeth Archwilio Meddygol Cymru Gyfan All Wales Medical Examiners Service Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership Ffon Telephone: [phone redacted] E-bost Email: [email redacted]<[email redacted]> Gwefan Website: https://nwssp.nhs.wales/ourservices/medical-examiner-service/ Mae Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. NHS Wales Shared Services welcomes correspondence in Welsh. Dw i ddim yn deall Cymraeg. Fodd bynnag mae PCGC yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg neu Saesneg. Rydym yn croesawu gohebiaeth yn y Gymraeg. Ni fydd gohebu gyda ni yn y Gymraeg yn achosi oedi. I’m not able to understand Welsh. However NWSSP welcomes correspondence in Welsh or English. We welcome correspondence in Welsh and corresponding with us in Welsh will not lead to delay. Mae’r neges hon yn gyfrinachol. Os nad chi yw’r derbynnydd y bwriedid y neges a rei gyfer, rhowch wybod I’r anfonwr yn ddioed. Dylid ystyried unrhyw ddatganiadau neu sylwadau a wneir uchod yn rhai personol, ac nid o angenrhaid yn rhai o eiddo Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru, nac unrhyw ran gyfansoddol ohoni na chorff cysylltiedig. This message is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of the message then please notify the sender immediately. Any of the statements or comments made above should be regarded as personal and not necessarily those of the NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership any constituent part or connected body. Cofiwch fod yn ymwybodol ei bod yn bosibl y bydd disgwyl Partneriaeth Cydwasanaethau GIG Cymru roi cyhoeddusrwydd I gynnwys unrhyw e-bost neu ohebiaeth a dderbynnir, yn inol ag amodau’r Ddeddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000. Please be aware that, under the terms of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, NHS Wales Shared Services Partnership may be required to make public the content of any emails or correspondence received. [cid:199979d5-518c-4cac-8b99-83b6e24ec53d][cid:6f33342f-df83-4ec5-a7da-e4c8ae999a03] [cid:9281c637-a47c-40f8-8029-2979c179d1c1] ________________________________ From: Sion Buckler <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Sent: 20 August 2026 20:33 To: SouthWalesCentral MedicalExaminersOffice (Gen126594) <[email redacted]<[email redacted]>> Subject: Enquiry regarding historical deaths – William Buckler (1990) and Mary Doreen Williams (1983) You don't often get email from [email redacted]<[email redacted]>. Learn why this is important WARNING: External email – take care before clicking links or opening attachments. Dear Medical Examiner Service (South Wales Central), I am writing to enquire whether any records or references are held in relation to the following historical deaths that occurred in the Cardiff & Vale / Llandough area: 1. William (Billy) Buckler - Died at Llandough Hospital on or about 29 May 1990, aged 41 - Reported cause: heart attack 2. Mary Doreen Williams - Born 10 August 1913 - Death registered March 1983, South Glamorgan (Vol 28, Page 3029) Although these pre-date the current Medical Examiner Service, I would be grateful if you could advise whether any legacy records, referrals, or related documentation exist, or direct me to the appropriate archive or department that may hold such information. Thank you for your assistance. Yours faithfully, Sion Buckler (Ret'd Sergeant) Royal Signals Cyber and Electronic Warfare Professional and Life Member