Subject: Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
From: Sion Buckler
Direction: sent
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2026 02:41 UTC
Institution: Welsh Government / Cadw
Refs: ATISN27021
Archive id: gm-19f2b0086c4cb09a
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On Fri, 3 Jul 2026, 12:00 ,   wrote:

> Dear Mr Buckler,
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> Many thanks for the email. This is a courtesy response to say that I will
> review your questions below and aim to get a response back to you by the 17
> th July.
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> Kind Regards
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> Amy
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> *From:* Sion Buckler  
> *Sent:* 02 July 2026 21:01
> *To:* Longford, Amy (LCC - Cadw)  
> *Subject:* Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
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> Dear Ms Longford,
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> Thank you for your letter of 2 July 2026 responding to the internal review
> of my Freedom of Information request (ATISN 27021) concerning Great House
> Farm, Llandough.
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> I appreciate the additional searches undertaken during the review and the
> explanation provided regarding the physical record series examined.
>
> However, having considered both the original response of 11 June 2026 and
> the outcome of the internal review, I would be be grateful if you could
> clarify a number of points which appear to remain unresolved.
>
> *1. Documentary basis of the original response*
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> The original response stated that Great House Farm was visited and
> assessed by Cadw inspectors and that the building did not satisfy the
> statutory listing criteria.
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> The internal review now confirms that no assessment, report or case file
> relating to that decision has been located and further states that any
> relevant file may have been destroyed before being entered onto the
> electronic records system.
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> Please therefore identify the documentary basis upon which the original
> response concluded that the property was assessed and found not to meet the
> listing criteria.
>
> Specifically:
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>    - Is that conclusion derived from a surviving record?
>    - If so, please identify that record.
>    - If not, please explain how that conclusion was reached.
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> *2. The inspection of 29 July 1988*
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> The original disclosure included two photographs dated 29 July 1988.
>
> Please confirm:
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>    - whether those photographs were taken as part of a formal listing
>    inspection;
>    - whether they formed part of a wider inspection file;
>    - whether any inspection notes, recommendation forms, field notebooks,
>    photographic registers or other associated records were created; and
>    - if such records once existed, whether they are now believed to have
>    been destroyed.
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> *3. Basis for the statement that records may have been destroyed*
>
> The review states that it is possible documentation dating from around
> 1988 was destroyed before being entered onto the electronic records system.
>
> Please clarify whether that statement is based upon:
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>    - documentary evidence relating specifically to Great House Farm;
>    - records management documentation such as retention schedules,
>    destruction registers or disposal logs; or
>    - a general understanding of historic records management practices.
>
> If no destruction records exist for the relevant file series, please
> confirm this.
>
> *4. Scope of the searches*
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> Please confirm whether searches extended beyond the registered listing
> files to include, where appropriate:
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>    - ministerial correspondence;
>    - senior officials' correspondence;
>    - legal files;
>    - inspector's working papers;
>    - site visit records;
>    - archaeological or conservation files;
>    - policy records; and
>    - correspondence with external organisations, including the Vale of
>    Glamorgan Council, the former Welsh Office and other heritage bodies.
>
> If any of these categories were not searched, I would be grateful if you
> could identify which.
>
> *5. Welsh Government's position*
>
> Finally, I would be appreciate clarification of the Welsh Government's
> position regarding Great House Farm.
>
> Does the Welsh Government's position now amount to one of the following:
>
>    - that Great House Farm was never considered for statutory protection;
>    - that it was considered, but the records no longer survive; or
>    - that it is no longer possible to determine whether consideration
>    took place because the relevant records are unavailable?
>
> If none of those accurately reflects your position, I would be grateful if
> you could explain what the Welsh Government's position is.
>
> These questions arise directly from the original response and the internal
> review and are intended to clarify the historical record rather than seek
> the creation of new information.
>
> I look forward to your response.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Sion Buckler
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>
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> On Thu, 2 Jul 2026, 08:10 ,   wrote:
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> Dear Mr Buckler
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> Please see attached my review of your request noted ATISN 27021.
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> Please let me know if you have any questions or queries.
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> Kind Regards
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> Amy Longford
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> *Amy Longford IHBC MRTPI*
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> Uwch Arolygydd Adeiladau Hanesyddol, Parciau a Gerddi
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> / Senior Inspector of Historic Buildings, Parks and Gardens
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> Amgylchedd Hanesyddol / Historic Environment
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> Cadw
> Llywodraeth Cymru / Welsh Government
> Ffôn / Tel: [phone redacted]
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> *From:* Sion Buckler  
> *Sent:* 16 June 2026 09:10
> *To:* Longford, Amy (LCC - Cadw)  
> *Subject:* Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
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> I suspected so.
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> Thanks Amy.
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> I look forward.
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> Sion
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> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026, 05:08 ,   wrote:
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> Dear Mr Buckler,
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> Many thanks for the quick response and for confirming your position. I
> totally understand and whilst the letters may appear formal, there are set
> templates to use for a review, I will bear this in mind whilst taking this
> forward.
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> Just to let you know, I have had initial conversations internally which I
> will continue. I will keep you updated as best as I can.
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> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Amy
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> *From:* Sion Buckler  
> *Sent:* 16 June 2026 05:38
> *To:* Longford, Amy (LCC - Cadw)  
> *Subject:* Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
>
>
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> Ms Longford,
>
> Thank you for the acknowledgement letter and for handling the internal
> review.
>
> For the record, my communications with Cadw have been enquiries and
> requests for information under FOI/EIR (ATISN 27021), specifically
> regarding the statutory listing history, assessments and related records
> (including the 1988 inspection photographs) for the building known as Great
> House Farm / Ty Mawr / Church View Close. I subsequently requested an
> internal review of the response provided.
>
> This was not framed or intended as a formal complaint. I would therefore
> be grateful if the matter could be treated and recorded as an information
> request and internal review under FOI/EIR, rather than as a complaint.
>
> My enquiries concern Cadw's functions in relation to the listing and
> assessment of the building only.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sion Buckler (Ret'd Sergeant)
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> Military Cyber & Electronic Warfare Professional
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> Life Member: Royal Corps of Signals
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> On Mon, 15 Jun 2026, 12:44 ,   wrote:
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> Dear Mr Buckler
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>
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> Many thanks for your email requesting an internal review of you EOI
> request, I will be the case officer dealing with the review, please see the
> attached acknowledgement letter with key dates. Any questions, please let
> me know and I will do my best to help.
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> Kind Regards
>
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>
> Amy
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> [image: https://i.ibb.co/59wkfSM/Cadw-large.png]
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> *Amy Longford IHBC MRTPI*
>
> Uwch Arolygydd Adeiladau Hanesyddol, Parciau a Gerddi
>
> / Senior Inspector of Historic Buildings, Parks and Gardens
>
> Amgylchedd Hanesyddol / Historic Environment
>
> Cadw
> Llywodraeth Cymru / Welsh Government
> Ffôn / Tel: [phone redacted]
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