Subject: Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
From: Sion Buckler
Direction: sent
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2026 20:01 UTC
Institution: Welsh Government / Cadw
Refs: ATISN27021
Archive id: gm-19f246ba709c99af
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Dear Ms Longford,
Thank you for your letter of 2 July 2026 responding to the internal review
of my Freedom of Information request (ATISN 27021) concerning Great House
Farm, Llandough.
I appreciate the additional searches undertaken during the review and the
explanation provided regarding the physical record series examined.
However, having considered both the original response of 11 June 2026 and
the outcome of the internal review, I would be be grateful if you could
clarify a number of points which appear to remain unresolved.
*1. Documentary basis of the original response*
The original response stated that Great House Farm was visited and assessed
by Cadw inspectors and that the building did not satisfy the statutory
listing criteria.
The internal review now confirms that no assessment, report or case file
relating to that decision has been located and further states that any
relevant file may have been destroyed before being entered onto the
electronic records system.
Please therefore identify the documentary basis upon which the original
response concluded that the property was assessed and found not to meet the
listing criteria.
Specifically:
- Is that conclusion derived from a surviving record?
- If so, please identify that record.
- If not, please explain how that conclusion was reached.
*2. The inspection of 29 July 1988*
The original disclosure included two photographs dated 29 July 1988.
Please confirm:
- whether those photographs were taken as part of a formal listing
inspection;
- whether they formed part of a wider inspection file;
- whether any inspection notes, recommendation forms, field notebooks,
photographic registers or other associated records were created; and
- if such records once existed, whether they are now believed to have
been destroyed.
*3. Basis for the statement that records may have been destroyed*
The review states that it is possible documentation dating from around 1988
was destroyed before being entered onto the electronic records system.
Please clarify whether that statement is based upon:
- documentary evidence relating specifically to Great House Farm;
- records management documentation such as retention schedules,
destruction registers or disposal logs; or
- a general understanding of historic records management practices.
If no destruction records exist for the relevant file series, please
confirm this.
*4. Scope of the searches*
Please confirm whether searches extended beyond the registered listing
files to include, where appropriate:
- ministerial correspondence;
- senior officials' correspondence;
- legal files;
- inspector's working papers;
- site visit records;
- archaeological or conservation files;
- policy records; and
- correspondence with external organisations, including the Vale of
Glamorgan Council, the former Welsh Office and other heritage bodies.
If any of these categories were not searched, I would be grateful if you
could identify which.
*5. Welsh Government's position*
Finally, I would be appreciate clarification of the Welsh Government's
position regarding Great House Farm.
Does the Welsh Government's position now amount to one of the following:
- that Great House Farm was never considered for statutory protection;
- that it was considered, but the records no longer survive; or
- that it is no longer possible to determine whether consideration took
place because the relevant records are unavailable?
If none of those accurately reflects your position, I would be grateful if
you could explain what the Welsh Government's position is.
These questions arise directly from the original response and the internal
review and are intended to clarify the historical record rather than seek
the creation of new information.
I look forward to your response.
Yours sincerely,
Sion Buckler
On Thu, 2 Jul 2026, 08:10 , <[email redacted]> wrote:
> Dear Mr Buckler
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> Please see attached my review of your request noted ATISN 27021.
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> Please let me know if you have any questions or queries.
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> Kind Regards
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> Amy Longford
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> *Amy Longford IHBC MRTPI*
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> Uwch Arolygydd Adeiladau Hanesyddol, Parciau a Gerddi
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> / Senior Inspector of Historic Buildings, Parks and Gardens
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> Amgylchedd Hanesyddol / Historic Environment
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> *From:* Sion Buckler <[email redacted]>
> *Sent:* 16 June 2026 09:10
> *To:* Longford, Amy (LCC - Cadw) <[email redacted]>
> *Subject:* Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
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> I suspected so.
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> Thanks Amy.
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> I look forward.
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> Sion
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> On Tue, 16 Jun 2026, 05:08 , <[email redacted]> wrote:
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> Dear Mr Buckler,
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> Many thanks for the quick response and for confirming your position. I
> totally understand and whilst the letters may appear formal, there are set
> templates to use for a review, I will bear this in mind whilst taking this
> forward.
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> Just to let you know, I have had initial conversations internally which I
> will continue. I will keep you updated as best as I can.
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> Kind Regards
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> Amy
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> *From:* Sion Buckler <[email redacted]>
> *Sent:* 16 June 2026 05:38
> *To:* Longford, Amy (LCC - Cadw) <[email redacted]>
> *Subject:* Re: REVIEW of EOI ATISN 27021
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> Ms Longford,
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> Thank you for the acknowledgement letter and for handling the internal
> review.
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> For the record, my communications with Cadw have been enquiries and
> requests for information under FOI/EIR (ATISN 27021), specifically
> regarding the statutory listing history, assessments and related records
> (including the 1988 inspection photographs) for the building known as Great
> House Farm / Ty Mawr / Church View Close. I subsequently requested an
> internal review of the response provided.
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> This was not framed or intended as a formal complaint. I would therefore
> be grateful if the matter could be treated and recorded as an information
> request and internal review under FOI/EIR, rather than as a complaint.
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> My enquiries concern Cadw's functions in relation to the listing and
> assessment of the building only.
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> Regards,
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> Sion Buckler (Ret'd Sergeant)
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> Military Cyber & Electronic Warfare Professional
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> Life Member: Royal Corps of Signals
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> On Mon, 15 Jun 2026, 12:44 , <[email redacted]> wrote:
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> Dear Mr Buckler
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> Many thanks for your email requesting an internal review of you EOI
> request, I will be the case officer dealing with the review, please see the
> attached acknowledgement letter with key dates. Any questions, please let
> me know and I will do my best to help.
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> Kind Regards
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> Amy
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> *Amy Longford IHBC MRTPI*
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> Uwch Arolygydd Adeiladau Hanesyddol, Parciau a Gerddi
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> / Senior Inspector of Historic Buildings, Parks and Gardens
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> Amgylchedd Hanesyddol / Historic Environment
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> Cadw
> Llywodraeth Cymru / Welsh Government
> Ffôn / Tel: [phone redacted]
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